United Kingdom, Sept. 28 -- Madonna has used her first podcast interview to declare said she owes her decades-long career to her spiritual practice.

The 67-year-old singer will appear on a new episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty on Monday (29.09.25), where she speaks candidly with podcast host Jay Shetty about the role spirituality has played in her life.

The discussion ranges from forgiveness and success to the influence of Kabbalah, which Madonna first encountered in 1996 shortly before the birth of her daughter Lourdes Leon.

An extract from the chat obtained by People reveals Madonna tells Jay: "You need to be spiritual to be successful. Success is having a spiritual life, period. I wouldn't be here if I didn't have one."

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