CANBERRA, ACT, June 18 -- The Treasurer of Australia issued the following transcript:

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Subjects: 2025 election, productivity, progressive patriotism, global uncertainty, reform roundtable, net zero transition

MarkKenny:

G'day there and welcome to Democracy Sausage from the Australian National University. I'm MarkKenny director of ANU's Australian Studies Institute and I'm delighted to welcome back to Democracy Sausage federal Treasurer, JimChalmers. G'day there Jim.

JimChalmers:

It's nice to see you again, Mark, thanks for having me back on your podcast.

Kenny:

It's a great pleasure. There's a fair bit happening in the world, it seems like the pace of events is such really, I don't know. You have spoken about this, written about...